‘I don’t make things that have names. I don’t make identifiable things – like here’s a tree or a rock or a car, I just don’t make things that way. The painting doesn’t communicate to me that way, because its paint. As paint, it’s telling me different things and those things are unnamed things. When you have a dream, there’s visual stuff going on in your subconscious you can’t really get a hold of – you can’t weigh it down and say what it is; you can’t’ (A. Banisadr, quoted in J. Beer, ‘Conversation with the Unnamed: Ali Banisadr’, Art-Rated, January 2012).