EC: This was a birthday or Christmas present from my first wife [Patti Clapton]... For a long time I couldn't figure out what the hell it was (all laugh) and then it turned into a legend in its own right for other reasons - it became a story. We created a legend around it which is completely fictitious..
LD: Yes, its been amazing how its just grown and grown.
EC: People would always ask [about it] if it ever appeared anywhere - if we had it in the studio with the case...open..people would just walk into it like a baited trap [all laugh]...
LD: Are we going to go down that road?
EC: Yes, why not...
LD: One of the first guys [to fall into the trap] was a close chum of Eric's...He came up to the studio at Olympic to have lunch, and said "Wow man what's this?", and I said "Ah, you'll have to talk to Eric about that", and he asked Eric and Eric just superbly came out with "That's the Ligvoder Strut".
EC: Yes, the Ligvoder Strut.
LD: ...and he said "How Come", and I said "Well there were two brothers in Germany, Karl Heinz Ligvoder and Willy Von Lingvoder...they were very very influential in the concept of resonator guitars"... and Eric would come in with a bit and add it on..."They lived in such and such a place in Bavaria"... and so on, and so on.. and he was going "Wow, I've never seen one of these" and was told "There is only one - The Ligvoder Strut", and since then we've had picks made with the Ligvoder Strut, it's an amazing story - the two legends of Ligvoder... if you have a couple of hours [lots of laughter].
EC: The terrible thing is, there probably is one [more laughter].
KK: William B. Tilton was a guitar maker in ...Massachusetts. It was his idea to run this brace the whole length of the guitar..
EC: Was it part of the neck?
KK: Yes, and his view was that it gave it strength and transferred vibration up and down the whole length of the instrument.